Woo! *waves a little flag*

What I've never been able to understand is why you guys celebrate your independance but we don't celebrate it. After all, who got the best deal? We did!

We ditched the most troublesome colony of the day and saved huge quantities of tax payers money, as well as the lives of our armed forces members and were able to continue to prosper and grow as the most powerful nation on Earth until the end of WW2.

Meanwhile, America lost all sense of direction, government, economics, intelligence, politices and infastructure and ended up in pretty much the same state as Britain was in when the Romans pulled out, only significantly fatter. And that it seems is where she has remained.

God bless the United States, for without them we'd have to revive all those done-to-death anti-French jokes!

Yea, we get that a lot over here. You put something out for the bin men and before they arrive to collect it some bugger's gone through it and nicked whatever they think they can use. I'd suggest you take some of our comedy as well, but having seen some of the truly dreadful American remakes of classic British sitcoms I think perhaps that isn't a good idea.

A Brit is probably the wrong person to ask sadly. The trouble is that American trends are so much a part of our world, what with American TV shws on half our channels and almost everything in the cinema a product of Hollywood that we don't really notice a "coastal American accent" anymore. I use the term coastal as I don't know much about American populations but have been led to believe that the more intelligent Americans with the Hollywood accents are those living on the East and West coasts, mainly in the bigger cities, as that is where the films are from. Unless the accents are exagerated it is hard to pick those up at all.

The one that stands out more the George W Bush accent, which I'm assuming is a general purpose Southern accent. I know it varies slightly from state to state but having never been to the States I have to generalise a little. That accent generally suggests low intelligence, partly because of Bush speechs and partly because of the general red neck stereotype. I think an American accent can sound formidable or sinister but it depends on what is being said and in what context. If you are on the wrong end of a US nuke I imagine it sounds pretty formidable but in general it isn't all that different to an under exagerated British accent. These days the difference between British, American and Canadian accents is getting increasingly subtle. The only English language national accent that really stands out is the Australian one. Obviously regional UK accents are very distinctive but never seem to get used in comedy :(

Oh and well done for loving British comedy! You are welcome here anytime :) The question is, do you understand it?

You know, the more we speak on such subjects, the more I feel I'd like to visit America. Once you get past the Hollywood image, the insane patriotism, the religious crap and the excess advertising and fast food, I think it must have some facinating aspects to it. I read quite a lot of books set in the States and I think I'd quite like living in a decent sized country. I really must get round to visiting one day anyway.

It seems your accent detection abilities are far more advanced than mine. I keep quiet about accents after I made the mistake of confusing a mild Scotish accent and a mild Welsh one once. Very not good.

Actually, calling it the Fourth of July is colloquial terminology. Its called Independence Day in foreign countries and, generally, in the north. Calling it the Fourth is more of a Southern Comfort style. It's not the official name of the holiday.

It is a big word...at least calendars still say "Independence". If there was a little square on the July page with a "4" in one corner and a "Fourth of July" in another, I would have to cry a little.

Dude! As weird as it may be, this post of yours inspired a seriously long rant in me today! I don't know why, but it did!! I woke up feeling not at all coherent, just kind of grumbly. After reading your blurb, so much brain-drool slimed out of my head and onto my blog....it was amazing! I owe the formidible amount of matt-writing at http://flyingtoaster.blogspot.com/2006/07/happy-explodey-day.html to you.

Seriously, take the salad forks out of your ears or something, because your powerful mind-rays are still reaching me, even from all the way over there on the east coast!

Happy Explodey-4th-o-July-American-Independence-Day everybody!

I celebrate the 20th of April. And erm, it's time to celebrate poor, neglected 5th of July, no?

I don't know how the Fourth of July came to be an acceptable term all on its own but that may come from the fact that isolationism lead to more people entering the country than leaving it for a century there and as a result people would be coming from countries with their own independance days and by using the date, you could effectively state which day you are referring to. That or it was easier to say "Celebrate the Fourth" than "Celebrate the day the Continental Congress adopted the Declaration of Independance even though they didn't get around to signing it until August 2nd."

When it comes to holidays known by their date don't forget Juneteenth--the day Lincoln emancipated all the slaves in the Confederate States of America! Now isn't that just confusing; you can't even tell exactly what day it is or what it's about without someone in the know telling you. That's just mean.

Technically, the Declaration wasn't signed until (depending on the source) days or weeks later, and the resolution declaring independence was presented to the Continental Congress on July 2, so July 4's importance may have been overrated anyway. (The British didn't receive word of the declaration until August, anyway.)

It's sort of like celebrating Christmas on December 25, even though indications from the Bible are that it was almost certainly nowhere near winter when Jesus was born. (Or his birth happening around 4 B.C.E., for that matter.)

I blame Tom Cruise and his movie Born on the Fourth of July.

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